??best place to live in the united states??

[nino]

i have one more year to live here in san antonio and was just wondering where in the united states you guys would recommend living.
my wife and i are really contemplating somewhere up north - boston, chicago, Virginia or higher. i finish school in december 2004 and my lease is up at the same time. so i got 1 full year to prepare and make up my mind.

what do you guys reccommend?
btw, my wife loves big cities - new york, san antonio, chicago. i love small rural towns population < 5000. in the end she will win.

[nino]

and i simply refuse to live in california or new york.

i wish california would just fall into the ocean! why do i hate cali so much? because my car will never pass inspection there. wait, my car will never pass inspection anywhere :rolleyes:

[Snuffalofogus]

well i dont want california to fall off graemlins/stickpoke.gif

personally i would want to live in alaska

[nino]

i would go to cali in a heartbeat, but i cant take my car or my EGR removing/cat gutting practices with me.

[Trunks]

if YOU somehow happen to win the decision, my town is in wisconsin and is only about 5700 people it's called mauston. For big cities in wisconsin try madison, fairly low crime rate, i think it was rated one of the best low-crime cities

[Everglades W68]

Florida!

[Skapimp]

Miami.

[nino]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Trunks:
if YOU somehow happen to win the decision, my town is in wisconsin and is only about 5700 people it's called mauston. For big cities in wisconsin try madison, fairly low crime rate, i think it was rated one of the best low-crime cities<hr></blockquote>

i wouldnt fit in a town with no crime. i just moved out of a neighborhood that had daily drivebys and cop chases. remember a while back somebody stole my freaking trash can! just the other day my washer/dryer, stock sopiler, and my transmission i was selling was stolen between the hours of noon and 3 pm. they even went thru all my tool boxes and took the tools they wanted - they left some tools behind. then the next day they came back and took my sons bike. what gets me though is they took my tranny and spoiler. why take my stock spoiler? i could kill a mexican if i knew who it was.

but yeah a low crime town is exactly what i need. the townhome i just moved into - the first day i let my kids go to the neighborhood park alone they get into a fight with my freaking neighboors.

florida sounds nice, but i would definately have to check it out first before i bedded down there. i still have nightmares of scarface.

[wazup158]

good ole dover delaware...close to everything..30 min from the beaches..45 - an hour away from philly and washington and maryland...you got it all....plus its small and quaint

[TheV6Bird]

Boston is nice big city. I haven't been there in a while but I go to school with a lot of people from there and they love it there.

You're from hot San Antonio though; do you REALLY want to move up to the colder north? Right now, the temps are usually in the 20s-30s....the reason I ask is because some southern people sh*t a brick when it gets below 60.

Oh yeah, while I am comfortable living in CT, I wouldn't recommend moving here: cost of living is high.

[95DGcamaro]

MINNESOTA

no inspections and then you can join the MNfbody club and race with us all.. you could live in St. Paul or Minneapolis, those are pretty big cities.

[nino]

CT is actually one place that is on our list. as for the cold, thats nothing that cant be helped with sweatshirts and jackets and maybe a little hot cocoa. you are right though, anything below 70 is reason to pull out the parka down here.

i didnt think of dover, but i can imagine the cost of living is high there to.

i wouldnt mind going to water country usa again if it is still around. virginia sounds good minus the hurricanes.

[nino]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by 95DGcamaro:
MINNESOTA

no inspections and then you can join the MNfbody club and race with us all.. you could live in St. Paul or Minneapolis, those are pretty big cities.<hr></blockquote>


why is it all i can put together with those cities is crime?

though i do like the invitation to race.
:D

[Silv6]

dont come to florida, there are enough people here already.

[wazup158]

Dover isnt to high in prices to live..there are several small little towns near dover for ex. camden in which i live..its about 10 min from dover...Awesome hear the weather never sucks summer its in the high 80's and winter stays about 40 or so...never to cold or hot..but heat i dont think it matters for you since your from texas. Tax free shopping here..very awesome

[SuprSpdDB7]

NY and CALI are expensive as hell to live in...

FL is nice, most of FL has low insurance rates, crime isn't outta control, and you have your lower income, middle and high class areas too, some places are really nice to live. I personally love living in Tampa now, i lived in Vero Beach before and it was nothing but old people...
Just don't move to Orlando (or Miami, personal opinion) NO ONE knows how to drive there... orlando cuz everyone is from somewhere else and miami cuz a lot don't even have licenses and can't read a word english...

[Bebo0001]

Come to Da Nooga. or Chattanooga TN for you out of town guys.. we need more 6ers here. Lots of MTN roads to tear up and its big enough for most shopping places for the ladies. aka we have the biggest mall in the state.

[Ian]

PA baby! Philly suburbs are great. I live in a town of 35,000 or so, like 5 miles from philly. Great area, house prices keep rising (good investment!), low crime, plenty of shopping areas, but not overpopulated. For stuff to do, go to philly at night!

Id also say delaware (which is only like 15 min from me), but property taxes are $$$$$$$$$$$$! No sales tax and stuff like that, but property taxes are damn high.

And not just cause i live here, i honestly think PA is the best state there is in terms of weather, people, government, laws, stuff to do, natural beauty, and cost of living.

Its damn nice!

[PewterBird]

Don't go to cali, its to damn crowded here already.

If you do come to cali, there is nothing like living on the beach smile.gif

[jamie]

i can honestly say delaware. or surround regions of lower PA. from my house in delaware i can get to philly in 20 minutes. NYC in 2.5 hours. baltimore in 45 minutes. and the beaches of jersey in like 1.5 hours. like skiing? mountains are only 2 hours away. hell delaware has decent beaches only 1 hour away. we get all 4 seasons. and their really isn't a bad area. some of the city and "ghetto's" can be bad. but not as bad as what you are currently living in.

[imported_admin]

Jennifer and I are from Virginia Beach, we moved up to Washington D.C. last year to tap into the high-tech job market up here. Even though the dot coms are out, the D.C. metro region still has more high-tech high-paying jobs than Silicon Valley. Cost of living is high but salaries are very high. We don't live in the District itself, we're in a suburb called Reston, on the Virginia side about 15 miles out of the city.

Some people say high salaries are not worth a high cost of living. I disagree. Cars and modifications cost the same regardless of where you live in the U.S., might as well live in an area where the incomes are high. The chances of you having extra $$$ leftover to spend on whatever you want is higher in an expensive/high salary area than it is in a cheap/low salary area.

EDIT: Let me rephrase that... high salary/expensive cost of living vs. low salary/low cost of living... they do NOT cancel out. In VA Beach we worked for pennies but covered the bills... but for us having $300 leftover at the end of the month to spend on mods was a big deal. Now in D.C. the leftover at the end of each month is four times that amount. Last time I checked TByrne and Thunder did not have a "cost of living price adjustment" when you order from them. ;)

[ December 26, 2003: Message edited by: Stefan ]</p>

[Max2k1Camaro]

I agree with stefan on this one. I work in DC and for a 21 year old without an undergraduate degree I am getting paid alot of money. The cost of living is expensive here but if you are willing to travel about 15 mins more, you can find places that are cheap. I live in Rockville, Maryland. I kinda like this area because you have DC, MD, and VA all 20-30 minutes from each other.

[Mogobs30th]

I really like a few places. I have visited nice places before, but there is nothing like Indianapolis. I live by two of the greatest race tracks in the world. IRP, which is home to the biggest, oldest, and most prestigious drag race in the country, the US Nationals, and the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, which hosts the three largest single day sporting events in the world, the Indianapolis 500, the United States Grand Prix, and the Brickyard 400. I have lived a life that revolved around racing in almost every aspect. If it has a motor, most likely I have seen it race, from cars to boats. I have been to boat races in Detroit, Madison IN, Evansville IN, been to NASCAR races in Bristol and Talladega, and have been to IRL races in Michigan and Gateway. But none of it even holds a candle to being here during the month of May. I have worked, toiled, and slaved for 364 days a year, just to be at IMS the Sunday before Memorial Day. At 5:00 am of race day there is a loud boom that echos for miles, a starburst that is set off to announce that the gates have opened at the track. I walk into the track at 6:00 am that race day, and slowly see 400,000 people work their way into their seats. I see and hear cars being prepared for the final time before the race, with a slight smell of Methanol in the air. I listen to Tom Carnegie ramble on about something over the PA system for the track, as cars and teams slowly start making their way to the track and pits. Eventually 12:00 pm rolls around, and I get to hear Jim Nabors (Gomer Pyle) sing "Back Home Again in Indiana", as well as listen to Florence Henderson sing "America the Beautiful". By this time you can hear a fly over from the Air Force, but not just some lame *** F-14 or some junky plane like that, the fly over is done with a Stealth bomber. Not soon after the command for the drivers to start their engines, and the pace car gets underway to start the race. Two parade laps, and one pace lap with the cars set 3 wide, 11 rows deep. The green flag drops, and for 500 miles I watch 33 cars battle for position at speeds of 225+ mph around a narrow, flat, tempermental race track. At the end, I see the winner with a wreath around his neck, sipping a bottle of milk. His face will soon be plastered upon the $1 million dollar trophy that sits behind him, and a very sizable check will be given to him the following Monday for winning the greatest race in the world.

Indianapolis is a big city with a more rural feeling. There are many things to do here, the NCAA Hall of Fame is here with their headquaters, we have two major teams here, the Colts and the Pacers. We also have a nice zoo, plenty of malls, and lots of landmarks. The cost of living really isn't high at all, and there are many technical, cutting edge jobs around here, and that is growing. Crime is on the fall, but never was high in the first place. Weather is somewhat extreme, can get as hot as 95+ in the summer, down to as low as -10 in the winter.

Mainly what I said up top was why I like living here. But for the most part, this city is great. Not too big, not too small, and there is usually something for everyone. Indy is a growing city. I really can't see myself moving away from here for good.

BTW, I have been up for almost 24 hours, so I tend to babble about things. But to tell you all honestly, if it came down to it, I would stab an old lady in the eye with a spork if it meant getting a $20 ticket to that race. ;)

[nino]

right now i drive 2 hours to get to work. the pay is soooo much better than what could be found in san antonio. i dont think i'll mind driving 15 min. ;)
when it comes to me moving, this time in my life, i have to go where the money is. for the last 4 years of my life i have been getting underpaid just because i liked the environment and lazyness at my job. but now when i get out of school i expect to get paid for my education.

thank you guys for all your responses. i have to let my wife take a look at this. too bad when i mentioned dover, she was like in shock. thats a place we never thought about. she did like the minnesota idea, and now she is pondering alaska.

[hawgs]

uhh... youre already in the best state in the country, why move? :D

[57s98Camaro]

Ohio sucks, please skip this state when trying to decide :D

[toady77]

Why leave Texas? Texas is the best state to live in. Everyone knows that. Hottest girls, Hottest cars, Hottest parties, Hottest everything. I say rethink your situation and stay here. Just move somewhere better than S.A. That city isn't the best in Texas, so I can imagaine why you would want to move. Try somewhere like Austin, Houston or even Dallas. Just my opinion.

[hawgs]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by toady77:
Why leave Texas? Texas is the best state to live in. Everyone knows that. Hottest girls, Hottest cars, Hottest parties, Hottest everything. I say rethink your situation and stay here. Just move somewhere better than S.A. That city isn't the best in Texas, so I can imagaine why you would want to move. Try somewhere like Austin, Houston or even Dallas. Just my opinion.<hr></blockquote>

Im with Toady

Move to Houston, much better then SA. smile.gif

[nino]

did some rersearch and it looks like the job market up in DE is ok, but just not hungry enough. i just got a $5,000 sign on bonus down here in texas for a 1 year commitment. delaware seems to only want to offer $2,500-$3,500.

graemlins/stickpoke.gif

[wazup158]

look at that...delaware is calling your name... graemlins/naughty.gif Dont let me down, we need more v6ers around here man. Come to Dover...Come to Dover..Come to Dover...you wont be let down

[nino]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by wazup158:
look at that...delaware is calling your name... graemlins/naughty.gif Dont let me down, we need more v6ers around here man. Come to Dover...Come to Dover..Come to Dover...you wont be let down<hr></blockquote>

??????V6ers??????
then i wouldnt fit in.
my car only looks like a V6. wait a minute! no it dont either. it looks like an SS with a mecham spoiler and ZR1s.

[wazup158]

well then you will fit in with the camaro's driving around with hubcaps still...actually i think your just scared to come here and face my car graemlins/burnout.gif

[nino]

i saw a 6er with the black steelies on and i was so proud of him. i just hate hubcaps.

[ChronoGN]

I would say Texas or Florida. No stupid car inspections and taxes insnt that expensive. And its warm.
If you dont mind the cold weather. Michigan is pretty good. No car inspections, tax isnt that expensive, lots of big parties around Detroit where rich people live.

[speedracer95v6]

I'm for texas. Oklahoma sucks unless you like scenery with bad roads.

[sac2165]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by 57s98Camaro:
Ohio sucks, please skip this state when trying to decide :D <hr></blockquote>

When your &lt; 18 anyplace you live sucks.

Columbus is a great place. Its a booming town, crime is relatively low, you've got just about everything you could want from a big city, and the country not too far away.

I live on a farm an commute 1/2 hour to downtown. You've got a big diversity of jobs, and a great nightlife to boot. Alot of friends I graduated with moved away, and all are itching to get back. Once you've given Columbus a chance, its pretty hard to leave...

[Everglades W68]

Delaware???

What the heck is in Delaware besides a bunch of corporation shell companies, some lawyers and bankers and a few billionaire murderers?

I still think Delaware should be merged into Maryland - get rid of the teeny little states.

:D

[wazup158]

hey man dont knock on delaware...we are the first state!! Besides a few million muderders??? i dont even know if we have that many people in delaware...lets see...There is no poisonous snakes no crocodiles or alligators.. no killer sharks attacking people in our part of the ocean and there is tax free everything and its peacefull and quiet no bums livin on the streets or hookers all over the place...beautiful if you ask me

[Justin Kirkham]

I really like Oregon and Michigan. Just avoid the UP of Michigan... odd folk up there...

-Justin

[96redcamarors]

You could live in the town I live in.... its total population I estimate being roughly 250-300....if I'm generous and extend the lines out. I know its not really a town but it is called Fredericktown (aka THE BURG) so I consider it a town if the word is in its name. of course your significant other would probably have a fit and leave you living in a place this small but Losiiville and Lexington are both with in an hours drive (they are the 2 largest cities in the state of kentucky...Louisville being the 16th largest city in the nation)

[Machiavelli]

Florence is nice.

[95fbirdkid]

the city i live in, Dublin, Ohio, was ranked the 2nd hottest city in its size class in the country by money magazine.

avg house: $360K
avg yearly income: $109K

It has a small town feel w/ some big city perks.

[MississippiMaro]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Mogobs30th:
I really like a few places. I have visited nice places before, but there is nothing like Indianapolis. I live by two of the greatest race tracks in the world. IRP, which is home to the biggest, oldest, and most prestigious drag race in the country, the US Nationals, and the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, which hosts the three largest single day sporting events in the world, the Indianapolis 500, the United States Grand Prix, and the Brickyard 400. I have lived a life that revolved around racing in almost every aspect. If it has a motor, most likely I have seen it race, from cars to boats. I have been to boat races in Detroit, Madison IN, Evansville IN, been to NASCAR races in Bristol and Talladega, and have been to IRL races in Michigan and Gateway. But none of it even holds a candle to being here during the month of May. I have worked, toiled, and slaved for 364 days a year, just to be at IMS the Sunday before Memorial Day. At 5:00 am of race day there is a loud boom that echos for miles, a starburst that is set off to announce that the gates have opened at the track. I walk into the track at 6:00 am that race day, and slowly see 400,000 people work their way into their seats. I see and hear cars being prepared for the final time before the race, with a slight smell of Methanol in the air. I listen to Tom Carnegie ramble on about something over the PA system for the track, as cars and teams slowly start making their way to the track and pits. Eventually 12:00 pm rolls around, and I get to hear Jim Nabors (Gomer Pyle) sing "Back Home Again in Indiana", as well as listen to Florence Henderson sing "America the Beautiful". By this time you can hear a fly over from the Air Force, but not just some lame *** F-14 or some junky plane like that, the fly over is done with a Stealth bomber. Not soon after the command for the drivers to start their engines, and the pace car gets underway to start the race. Two parade laps, and one pace lap with the cars set 3 wide, 11 rows deep. The green flag drops, and for 500 miles I watch 33 cars battle for position at speeds of 225+ mph around a narrow, flat, tempermental race track. At the end, I see the winner with a wreath around his neck, sipping a bottle of milk. His face will soon be plastered upon the $1 million dollar trophy that sits behind him, and a very sizable check will be given to him the following Monday for winning the greatest race in the world.

Indianapolis is a big city with a more rural feeling. There are many things to do here, the NCAA Hall of Fame is here with their headquaters, we have two major teams here, the Colts and the Pacers. We also have a nice zoo, plenty of malls, and lots of landmarks. The cost of living really isn't high at all, and there are many technical, cutting edge jobs around here, and that is growing. Crime is on the fall, but never was high in the first place. Weather is somewhat extreme, can get as hot as 95+ in the summer, down to as low as -10 in the winter.

Mainly what I said up top was why I like living here. But for the most part, this city is great. Not too big, not too small, and there is usually something for everyone. Indy is a growing city. I really can't see myself moving away from here for good.

BTW, I have been up for almost 24 hours, so I tend to babble about things. But to tell you all honestly, if it came down to it, I would stab an old lady in the eye with a spork if it meant getting a $20 ticket to that race. ;) <hr></blockquote>

I gotta go with mogobs on this being a native Hoosier and growing up in indy (carmel) for most of my life. It was a great place to live. But if you want to stay down south my favorite cities for cost of living/entertainment/shopping/etc.. are

Birmingham, AL - tons to do, moderate cost of living, very hilly and scenic, temperate climate, and good job market.

Knoxville, TN - pretty much the same resons as Birmingham.

[toady77]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by nino:
i saw a 6er with the black steelies on and i was so proud of him. i just hate hubcaps.<hr></blockquote>

Hell yeah, I totaly agree with you. I have been riding on my black steelies for over a year and ditched the hubs. But sadly the black steelies will be a thing of the past in a few hours when I get my A.Eagles 077s put on. :D

[nino]

anybody live in north carolina? thats where i am heading. somewhere on the beach (from wahat i am told) unfortunately i no longer have the camaro so i will be heading up there in the corvette.

[RancidCamaro]

Man, with your Corvette.. you should come to Las Vegas!

Big city your wife would love!

Warm, dry weather! Good for that vette of yours!

The Corvette Owners Association (I think that's what it's called) Club is a big club with many members!

Plus I can finally race a corvette if you come down here.. but I know you're considering someplace further up north.. so good luck with that!

[Justin Kirkham]

Michigan is a great state to live in, especially the lower penninsula. One city that might fit for you is Grand Rapids or Detriot. They are both big, but on the outskirts there are very nice rural communities. Just a thought.

If you don't want to live in that area, Washington is very nice, with a number of cities in the medium to big range. I'm mostly a midwest man myself, though. I love the areas of Michigan, Illinois, Kentucky, etc... They're well centralized in the nation, have nice areas of cities and areas of nature, but are not as hussle and bustle as a lot of cities in the east.

-Justin

[SuprSpdDB7]

wow seeing this message...
i read what i posted back in December

I ****ING HATE FLORIDA ALL OF FLORIDA ESPECIALLY TAMPA
my car's been hit twice, broken into twice, nothing but "good-for-nothings" in tampa... TRASHY PEOPLE everyone wants everything for free, yes some of you may be from tampa, but you guys are the rare exceptions from this otherwise everyone else here.....needs to kiss my ***

sorry.... about ranting, don't move to Florida, but if you do, move upstate anywhere north of orlando...
me personally i enrolled in CW Post out in Long Island... so bon-voy-****ing-age

[Niky]

I love living in Chicago. I could never live more than an hour away from the city ...

[nino]

looks like things have changed again.
anybody from wisconsin? i should be in watertown wisconsin in about a month if everything goes right. it is supposed to be between millawaukee*sp and madison. i was told it usually only gets to -5 degrees in the winter. what a relief!

[hawgs]

youre moving to Wisconsin Nino? :eek:

[Shelley]

Holy dead thread batman.

[Dan Vincent]

MA's emissions standards are just as bad as CA's, so don't think your car would fly here either. tongue.gif

[nino]

Originally posted by hawgs:
youre moving to Wisconsin Nino? :eek: yes sir! for an amount of money no mexican has ever made. $8.50 is going to look real good on my paycheck graemlins/omg.gif

[hawgs]

So selling the Vette and buying a truck for the snow?

[nino]

Originally posted by hawgs:
So selling the Vette and buying a truck for the snow? probably and i just bought the damn thing!!

2000 torch red vette for sale 40,000 miles
custom paint.....just take over payments.....$600 a month = $26,000

[LordoftheBling]

why move from the best state... wisconsin eh.. might as well go to canada..

[Everglades W68]

Enjoy the cheese.

[pontiac nino]

Originally posted by nino:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by hawgs:
youre moving to Wisconsin Nino? :eek: yes sir! for an amount of money no mexican has ever made. $8.50 is going to look real good on my paycheck graemlins/omg.gif </font>[/QUOTE]:confused: $8.50!!! sounds like you're gonna be a high roller, no more rice and beans for you then graemlins/rofl.gif more like chef boyardee and lunchables.
So what are you gonna do? Living in a van down by the river.....EATING GOVERMENT CHEESE!!

[Mighty Thor]

Oregon looks really nice and peaceful. The big city is only 12 miles away from where I hope to live. If my wife gets transfered there we're gone in a heartbeat.

[hawgs]

Originally posted by nino:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by hawgs:
So selling the Vette and buying a truck for the snow? probably and i just bought the damn thing!!

2000 torch red vette for sale 40,000 miles
custom paint.....just take over payments.....$600 a month = $26,000 </font>[/QUOTE]I'll do it... just make the first 4 payments for me and you have a deal.