View Full Version : 14.07@94.11 1.80 60' All Motor (Pulling a tire)
Magnus
02-17-2002, 05:51 PM
Thats right, lifting a tire off the ground.
What a day... what a weekend.
I spent most of Saturday (until 1am Sunday morning) helping Dom with his suspension install. What a PITA it is. No matter what we do with cars, there is always one bolt that will not cooperate. This one bolt (On top of the strut) just happened to be rusted away... grrr.. anyway
Sunday morning, alarm clock goes off.. 6am. :( Snooze.. 6:10, snooze, 6:20, snoooze...... 7:00.. I'm tired.. I don't feel like goign to the track today. too tired.. But, I get up. I still have to change the wheels on the car and pull out the passenger seat and sub/amp. *sigh*.
8:00, car is ready and I'm ready to go.
9:30, arrive at the track. I don't see any cars? There is just 1 other car there.. My # is 2. *shrug*
I tech in, he asks me if I have a DS loop, no.. He recomends I get one.. we talk, he's a nice guy.. I wonder where everyone is, so does he. He tells me the track was just sprayed so take it easy out of the hole. (I'm thinking,... yea.. Magnus take it easy? hmm.. nah).. I pull up.. do a nice healthy burnout.. Nittos at 25psi.. line up.. BAM.. 1.832 60' and run a 14.17@93.90.. Heck yea! I know i can do better on the 60'.. so I know I can do better.. but still 14.17 is kick *** .. new best for me..
I decide to lean the car out a little more with the MAFT+. (Ported TB really makes it run rich). 1.812 60' 14.122@94.35! Heck yea!
I decide to add some more advance (Now at -6% +4). 1.806 60' 14.099@93.95.. SWEET
I'm coming around to hot lap (My car really does well hot lapping).. I go around the burnout box and as I'm backing up, the pit director comes up to me, and I roll down my window.. he says.. "Congratulations, you just pulled a tire." I was awe struck, I responded several times, with .. What?? Huh?? No way. Yeup. He tells me to do it again, so.. who am I to say no..
I was able to do it a few more times. I was really launching HARD.
Now... there was only me and another car there.. So I was talkin a lot with the director. I would stage the car and he would come up some what close and watch.. so he was able to get a great view.. He told me that the tire woudl hang for a split second. :eek: Totally kick *** .
Anyway, I'm about done for the day, I've hit some great #'s so I tell him this will be my last pass, he says Take care, so do I...
I do a healthy burnout.. stage it.. BAM
60' : 1.802
330': 5.619
1/8 : 8.865@74.24
1/4 : 14.076@94.11
and sure enough, I FELT the tire come back down. It didn't hang long at all, but it did come up.
Now, your wondering how I can pull a tire on a 1.80 60' when it takes V8's 1.6's and 1.5's.. So am I.. I did some thinking about this on the way home.. First, I lowered the rear PSI to 20 for the latter passes. I had light weight skinnies on front and no A/C or sway bar. The front of my car is somewhat light. Also, my converter hits HARD. For those who have seen my car launch at the track, I'm sure they understand.
But, if I have the power to pull the wheels, how come my 60's are not better? Well, its not realy power to pull the wheel, but more like shock. I was able to shock the car enough to get the wheel to hop off the ground... Plus, with the V8's who pull tires, they still have much more power to accelerate for a quicker time where as I only have the power of the v6 so it won't accelerate that fast..
How much did you pull the tire?
Well, not much at all.. Maybe an inch for a foot or so. Nothing at all like our V8 brothers do. It was very minute.
I was thinking about getting HAL's for the front for the sole purpose of pulling a tire, but It seems that stock V6 suspension is adequate. I will probably do lighter A-Arms and possibly K-member to lighten up the front even more.
Also, I'm looking forward to spraying 125 TNT out of the hole on a 15x10 slick. :D
In conclusion, I am VERY happy with this timeslip. Not only did I have a great 60', I had a good 1/4 ET AND finally a good MPH.
The temp was upper 40's and there was a 0-5mph tail wind.
I'm very happy. Also, this was done with stock heads & cam. The valve covers have never been off my motor. I'm lookin forward to my heads/cam #'s.
Take Care.
[ February 17, 2002: Message edited by: Magnus ]</p>
RiceCooker
02-17-2002, 06:05 PM
GEEEEEEZZZZZ Magnus! You auto guys make a launch look sooooo simple graemlins/crybaby.gif That's a kick@$$ time and mph. Man, that MAFT+ is really helping, are you using 93octane, or a high octane mix? Congrats! With the heads and cam, you can only get better! graemlins/burnout.gif
mike malloy
02-17-2002, 06:07 PM
wow, very impressive, was this with the open exhaust again. i thinking i'm going to be ordering the maft+ very soon. i'm hoping next week to hit a 9.3 or better.. i know my car can do it
Magnus
02-17-2002, 06:12 PM
Thanks guys. graemlins/thumbsup.gif
Royce, straight 93 octain. I almost always only fill up with Amoco but this morning because I was running late I put some Mobil in at a rest area. Maybe I should use Mobil gas from now on. lol
Mike, MAFT+ is a great tool to tune you car precisely. Good luck next week. Traction is what will get you your 1/8th so make sure you hook it. graemlins/thumbsup.gif
- Keith
judothrasher
02-17-2002, 06:24 PM
Very impressive, Ur the man graemlins/fluffy.gif
mike malloy
02-17-2002, 06:27 PM
yea traction was a big deal today. i need to find some cheap radials.. you know where i can find some.. also did you run open exhaust today. i know i can benift from this cause i'm launching at 3000 rpms and i won't bog.. thank you..
camaro_zach
02-17-2002, 06:48 PM
HOLY CRAP! NICE RUN MAN! wow...get a blower cam and heads....i cant even imagine....
MustangEater8251
02-17-2002, 07:03 PM
hehe I believe the pulling a wheel, I run no endlinks and launch hard (have gotten as high as 4k) And hooked up, people say looks like I come out of the hole like a bat out of hell, jsut the rest of the run is what kills me. smile.gif
Tiago
02-17-2002, 07:29 PM
congrats!!! :D
Deuce Bigs
02-17-2002, 09:34 PM
OUTFUKINGSTANDING! congrats man! so you're gonna try for 13's before opening it up and before nitrous right? looks like PSJ might be right. maybe with the right setup the ol' V6 can hit 13's.
Hmm, where's the icon for a little man that bows?
:eek: :eek: :eek:
Oh schit I just pooped my pants! redface.gif :eek: graemlins/omg.gif
Nice times Keith! graemlins/thumbsup.gif
mike24
02-17-2002, 11:23 PM
You rock man!!!!! Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!! graemlins/toto.gif
Guardiannknight
02-17-2002, 11:42 PM
Who is the maker of the MAFT+ and what is the part number. smile.gif
john00v6a4
02-17-2002, 11:47 PM
man you are hauling ***. congrats on the new best.
12secondv6
02-18-2002, 12:02 AM
Ya know at first I'm like no frigin way but then I thought.
I've got several shots of my bird launching
One with 410's (stock tires in front), one with 342's (and skinnies) and one with 323's (skinnies) all stock converter.
Out of all those pictures the 4 10's n/a and stock front tires pulled the nose the hardest up in the air.
So, 373's, 3200 stall, no ac (32 pounds?), no sway bar (12 lbs?), skinnies (20 lbs per tire for 40 total)...... you gotta get a frigin picture of that!!!!!!!!!!
Send that out to car magazines!!!!!!!
They will eat it up right away and you will be in!!!!!!!
damn you, you beat me too it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
congrats
people (v8's) will doubt it so now you need a picture for proof
TheBeast
02-18-2002, 12:16 AM
Kick A$$ man!!! Stock internals too, awesome!
Magnus
02-18-2002, 08:25 AM
Thanks guys!
I had open Y-Pipe. Still have it today. It's so irritating. :(
MAFT+ is made by modern musclecar and it can be bought at ramchargers.com under custom products.
I think my stall was flashing yesterday around 3400 or so, maybe a little higher. I always forget to look beacuse I'm too focused on the track.
I might try for 13's with stock heads/cam, but I feel I'm close enough so I'm very satisfied with the times. As soon as my heads/cam get here though I know I'll want to put them in asap.
I will definately hit 13's NA before I nitrous again.
Thanks again guys. smile.gif
- Keith
TealV6
02-18-2002, 08:41 AM
Awesome job Keith!! Squeeze just a little more out of it to get that 13.999 and then shot the NOS. I also have to agree with James. Get some pictures together and the timeslips and start sending it into the mags. They would love you man..... your the apitimy of "Gear head" :D
Steve
Ironman24
02-18-2002, 09:03 AM
Holy freaking cow! Whoohoo! Crongrats!
13.99
13.99
13.99
I see 13.99. smile.gif
Pro Stock John
02-18-2002, 09:10 AM
I think the board has spoken Keith...
We should try to go this weekend (Feb 24th)
Did you know the factory carpet is 40 lbs? smile.gif
I might be ready too, I welded on true dual exhaust.
PSJ
98 formula
11.1 na
1.51 60 ft
120.99 best mph
...but not all on same run smile.gif
DEE97GTP
02-18-2002, 10:09 AM
WOW! That car is launching awesome. If I could only pull a 1.9 I would jump up and down and do a happy dance.
You got 13's na, just go on the Hollywood diet for a week!
:D
DEE
you are the man.
congrats!!!
do try and get a picture
so i can show it to my car and give her some inspiration.
great times kieth!!!
MustangEater8251
02-18-2002, 11:28 AM
Its an auto right, through a brick on the gas pedal and jump out the window. That should be good for a tenth. smile.gif
OneQuickSix
02-18-2002, 12:21 PM
Keith-
You seem to always amaze me. Congrats on your new best times! I can see 13's N/A for your car... YOU CAN DO IT!
125 shot TNT will put you in 11's?! damn...
"just a v-6" huh?! lol
Joe
I have to make it to the track some time with you so you can help me run some good times, k?
TheBeast
02-18-2002, 02:11 PM
<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Magnus:
MAFT+ is made by modern musclecar and it can be bought at ramchargers.com under custom products.
<hr></blockquote>
Do you recall the P/N? I tried to look it up but all I could find were the MAF Translators.
Magnus
02-18-2002, 02:20 PM
Ramchargers.com
Click Ramchargers Custom Parts (bottom Right)
1. Electronics
2. MAF Translators
518TRANSPLUS $ 279.00 Air/Fuel and spark tuning computer for Turbo Buick and LT1
bluecmaro96
02-18-2002, 04:28 PM
holy crap keith thats absolutely amazing. congrats, i may go with a pi converter it seems 2 work great. my old yank worked great but pi seems better.
bluecmaro96
02-18-2002, 04:29 PM
holy crap keith thats absolutely amazing. congrats, i may go with a pi converter it seems 2 work great. my old yank worked great but pi seems better.
navyblue2000
02-18-2002, 09:39 PM
keith, how much would the MAFT+ benefit the average joe schmoe, with mods like mine?
TheBeast
02-18-2002, 11:07 PM
<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Magnus:
Ramchargers.com
Click Ramchargers Custom Parts (bottom Right)
1. Electronics
2. MAF Translators
518TRANSPLUS $ 279.00 Air/Fuel and spark tuning computer for Turbo Buick and LT1<hr></blockquote>
Thanks man. Was there something in addition you need to use the MAFT+ like a laptop or somethin? Or is that just the scanning tool?
Magnus
02-19-2002, 09:33 AM
There are some MAFT+ discussions in General Help and Advanced Tech.. just do a search, if you don't find the answer and your question falls under one of the existing topics, bring that topic to the top.. or start a new one. This is Drag Racing. ;)
I might try for 13's this sunday ONLY if the weather is better. I'll see if I can shave 50 lbs off the car during the week to help.. I'd even remove bumper supports to get a 13.9 NA stock heads/cam.
It's up to the weather now.
- Keith
Magnus
02-19-2002, 09:46 AM
bluecmaro96, I actually believe Yank is better. I've often thought of going to a ST3500 for strictly NA purposes. I have been looking forward to having a competitor with a Yank converter and I still am.. I'd really like to see what somebody can do with a different converter.
Most LS1 guys will take a yank converter over a PI any day.
navyblue2000
02-19-2002, 10:23 AM
<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Magnus:
There are some MAFT+ discussions in General Help and Advanced Tech.. just do a search, if you don't find the answer and your question falls under one of the existing topics, bring that topic to the top.. or start a new one. This is Drag Racing. ;)
I might try for 13's this sunday ONLY if the weather is better. I'll see if I can shave 50 lbs off the car during the week to help.. I'd even remove bumper supports to get a 13.9 NA stock heads/cam.
It's up to the weather now.
- Keith<hr></blockquote>
alright, let's come down from the pedestal, and put a pin needle thru our head to bust that ego really quick ;)
now that that's done with, i thought it would be convenient to ask it here, since searches that i had done didn't yield anything :mad: haha :rolleyes: that being said, could you answer my question, lord all high and mighty of all v6 powered Fbodies? :rolleyes:
EDIT: sorry, just got back from looking at GTPs, and bah! nothing. i'm a little upset
[ February 19, 2002: Message edited by: navyblue2000 ]</p>
Magnus
02-19-2002, 10:36 AM
Woah, easy killer.
No ego or high horse at all. I do what I can to help others, I like helping... It's that specifics about the MAFT+ itself belong in the tech sections and not in drag racing.. it would be off topic then.. I'm not a big fan of topics that stray off their original topic.
I searched for MAF Translator in both General Help and Advanced Tech and had many results.. Here is a good one:
http://www.camarov6.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=16&t=000125
If you have more questions about it, feel FREE to make a new topic about it. ;) If its a more basic question with ?'s regarding its operation, post in General Help. If you wish to get in-depth with the tuning aspect, post in the Advanced Tech.
About the ego comment.. I try pretty damn hard to keep myself down to earth. I barely every post my sig and I never gloat about my timeslips. I do think of myself to be a 3800 Series II Guru but in no way am I a Lord all High and Mighty or a God of anything. I'm just yer typical 21yr old average Joe.
- Keith
[ February 19, 2002: Message edited by: Magnus ]</p>
navyblue2000
02-19-2002, 10:57 AM
<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Magnus:
in no way am I a Lord all High and Mighty or a God of anything.
[ February 19, 2002: Message edited by: Magnus ]<hr></blockquote>
you're not? gee, i am tongue.gif just kidding. sorry about that. thanks for the topic lookup
AMinor65
02-19-2002, 03:08 PM
Congratulations! You have a N/A almost 13 second car! With what I've been reading in the Nitrous section lately and I had your car, I'd be hard pressed to ever spray again.
F* Bodies hit the roof
02-19-2002, 07:27 PM
Congratulations!
Change the oil, transmission fluid, oil up
the 3.73s, clean intake, change plugs, fuel
injector cleaner (it works like a charm) and
you're baby will thank you! ;)
graemlins/burnout.gif
W68Firebird97
02-19-2002, 08:14 PM
Holy $hit I wish my tires would come off the ground. Anyway great job.
Can anyone say 13.xx NA
I think so!!!!!!!!!!! :eek:
Tux Mask-Andy
02-23-2002, 01:04 PM
hey magnus when your getting the supersix pack for your car. Like what kind of cam specs and you getting your heads polished? That should be one quick ride once you get those.
Magnus
02-25-2002, 08:46 AM
Heads will be P&P'd... My cam will be a COMP Cams Xtreme Energy grind with 212/212 .520/.520 112 LS 110 IC.
Thanks man.
- Keith
marco
02-26-2002, 12:42 PM
Good job on the low 14! I'm taking my car to the track next friday..so hopefully I can get some good numbers. Keep up the good work. graemlins/burnout.gif
Sandman
09-10-2003, 11:05 PM
That's graemlins/bs.gif I wish my car was that fast. That is **** hot man
Camaro_SLP
09-11-2003, 01:58 AM
<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Sandman:
That's graemlins/bs.gif I wish my car was that fast. That is **** hot man<hr></blockquote>
WTF!? :confused: :confused:
Why why why why why why and how how how do you revive a 2 year old post and respond to it as if it were today..
Anyways...to get some use out of this post..he doesn't have the V6 engine anymore..Magnus did an LS1 swap.
MustangEater8251
09-11-2003, 02:49 AM
<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Camaro_SLP:
WTF!? :confused: :confused:
Why why why why why why and how how how do you revive a 2 year old post and respond to it as if it were today..
Anyways...to get some use out of this post..he doesn't have the V6 engine anymore..Magnus did an LS1 swap.<hr></blockquote>
Don't forget to add he also ran a 13.6 n/a since then smile.gif
Magnus
09-11-2003, 09:44 AM
resurrected... from the drag racing grave yard.
Those where the days.
<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Camaro_SLP:
WTF!? :confused: :confused:
Why why why why why why and how how how do you revive a 2 year old post and respond to it as if it were today..
Anyways...to get some use out of this post..he doesn't have the V6 engine anymore..Magnus did an LS1 swap.<hr></blockquote>
Maybe he was bored?!? There isn't much to do in LITTLE ROCK you know? ;) He just got out of under his ROCK ..Hehe. ;) :D
Loochy88
09-15-2003, 03:58 PM
<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by MustangEater8251:
Don't forget to add he also ran a 13.6 n/a since then smile.gif <hr></blockquote>
i forget, was that with heads/cam or without?
Magnus
09-15-2003, 07:06 PM
14.0 stock heads/cam
13.6 heads/cam
Mighty Thor
09-18-2003, 04:55 AM
I must have been sleeping or something. I didn't know you were back in the V6 mode again. What's going on with the V8?
Gosshh!! That's awesome times for an NA stock engine. I swear you could do 12 sec. NA with the heads and cam and such.
CONGRATS. graemlins/thumbsup.gif
AZ3.8Camaro
09-18-2003, 09:42 AM
<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Mighty Thor:
I must have been sleeping or something. I didn't know you were back in the V6 mode again. What's going on with the V8?
Gosshh!! That's awesome times for an NA stock engine. I swear you could do 12 sec. NA with the heads and cam and such.
CONGRATS. graemlins/thumbsup.gif <hr></blockquote>
graemlins/rofl.gif graemlins/rofl.gif graemlins/rofl.gif
He is not driving a 6 again, this post is OLD, someone searched and then replied to it, so it came to the top.
Mighty Thor
09-18-2003, 03:20 PM
Dog gone it!!! Why do people do that. :mad: :D
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